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Post by amugs Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:05 pm

docstox12 wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:This is just crazy! These poor people had no time to prepare, going from a tropical storm to Cat 5 in 12 hours! Models are the solid lines, the dashed line is the actual intensification.

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Wow, an epic fail on the part of the models.

Massive and by NHC as well who are usually pretty good. Imagine tihs were to happen in USA - NOLA or Gold Coast of Florida? The damage and death would be ridiculous, heads would literally roll - I know Andrew and michale were at those scales but a widerspread scenerio?

How about thes temperature differences. This is holy mother of cold for October in the Northern Plains!!

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Post by Frank_Wx Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:36 pm

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frank 638 wrote:I don’t know if anyone follows, joe cioffi and joe rao on their Facebook or YouTube channel tonight. They’re having a show talking about this upcoming winter pattern and long range pattern. They also having other meteorologist as well. it starts at 7:35 PM.

see you there!

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Post by Dunnzoo Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:18 pm

Here is the link to the show. The one thing Dave Tellaris mentioned he is watching is the PDO. The show is usually an hour, but having him and meteorologist Bill Goodman from Upton took a while. I will have to re-watch it again myself and write things down and see how they do. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PRw1Hz-P2o

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Post by Dunnzoo Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:20 pm

He also said to watch the MEI and El Nino. He said they usually match, but they aren't this year, so that's why some long range forecasts are all over the place, no one knows which will be the dominating factor(s) for the winter.

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Post by frank 638 Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:25 pm

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Dunnzoo wrote:
frank 638 wrote:I don’t know if anyone follows, joe cioffi and joe rao on their Facebook or YouTube channel tonight. They’re having a show talking about this upcoming winter pattern and long range pattern. They also having other meteorologist as well. it starts at 7:35 PM.

see you there!

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thank you Janet for putting up the video . Frank when you get a chance, watch the video. It’s a lot for me to explain but I think it’s good news. They explain why we’ve been having strange weather all over the globe. They Also, explain the nao pna elnino and more

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Post by nutleyblizzard Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:59 pm

Thanks for the video. Very interesting and informative. Should be a fun winter around these parts.
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Post by amugs Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:43 pm

frank 638 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:
frank 638 wrote:I don’t know if anyone follows, joe cioffi and joe rao on their Facebook or YouTube channel tonight. They’re having a show talking about this upcoming winter pattern and long range pattern. They also having other meteorologist as well. it starts at 7:35 PM.

see you there!

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thank you Janet for putting up the video . Frank when you get a chance, watch the video. It’s a lot for me to explain but I think it’s good news. They explain why we’ve been having strange weather all over the globe. They Also, explain the nao pna elnino and more

''They explain why we’ve been having strange weather all over the globe"

Sorry but they are far from the truth with this. It is totally sun driven and a cycle of nature. Meridional Jet Structure is so wavy and whacky due to the solar minimum we have entered. NASA is actually validating as are many scientists with papers written and published on this topic (Dr. Willie Soon is one for example) this and it will only get worse as we head deeper into this 11-yearcycle only to be followed up by 2-3 more 11-year cycles of deeper minimum. It has happened before and will again.

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Post by docstox12 Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:39 pm

In the middle of December in 1960, a terrible mid air collision involving a United DC8 jet and a TWA Turboprop Constellation happened over Staten Island.I was 10 at the time and it is burned in my memory.Maybe the old heads here will remember it.Correction to the article, there was one survivor, Stevie Baltz age 11 who was travelling alone on the DC 8.He was found in a snowbank, the leftovers from the Dec 11-12 major snowstorm that hit the tri state area.He passed a few days later.

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Post by amugs Sun Nov 05, 2023 2:40 pm

Doc and CP you guys remember this?? LOL

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Post by weatherwatchermom Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:12 pm

amugs wrote:Doc and CP you guys remember this?? LOL

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not nice mugs...LOL
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Post by nutleyblizzard Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:17 pm

I’m having my ariens snowblower serviced this week and it’s not going to be cheap. This winter better deliver.
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Post by Dunnzoo Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:34 pm

nutleyblizzard wrote:I’m having my ariens snowblower serviced this week and it’s not going to be cheap. This winter better deliver.

That's a jinx right there! geek I finally broke down and got a snowblower before last season and then nada lol

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Post by nutleyblizzard Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:28 pm

Dunnzoo wrote:
nutleyblizzard wrote:I’m having my ariens snowblower serviced this week and it’s not going to be cheap. This winter better deliver.

That's a jinx right there!  geek I finally broke down and got a snowblower before last season and then nada  lol
Nope according to urban legend it’s only a jinx if you buy a new snowblower. I’m having mine serviced. It’s having performance issues! Laughing
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Post by docstox12 Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:55 pm

amugs wrote:Doc and CP you guys remember this?? LOL

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lol! lol! lol! lol!

Yes, Mugsy, CP and I went shoveling walks here in the Hudson Valley for 25 cents each.
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Post by docstox12 Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:57 pm

nutleyblizzard wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:
nutleyblizzard wrote:I’m having my ariens snowblower serviced this week and it’s not going to be cheap. This winter better deliver.

That's a jinx right there!  geek I finally broke down and got a snowblower before last season and then nada  lol
Nope according to urban legend it’s only a jinx if you buy a new snowblower. I’m having mine serviced. It’s having performance issues! Laughing

Absolutely correct Nutley, and now I can regain my composure,LOL.
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Post by amugs Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:09 am

Hype or Truth?? Time will tell


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Post by sroc4 Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:17 am

In light of the transitionary period, fall to winter, and because I know CP loves him(although doubt he has even checked in since March so prob wont see this), here is an appropriate song while we wait.




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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:07 am

sroc4 wrote:In light of the transitionary period, fall to winter, and because I know CP loves him(although doubt he has even checked in since March so prob wont see this), here is an appropriate song while we wait.




lol! and on a side note these first music videos are a blast to watch..stone age...compared to the mini movies put out today..lol
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Post by dkodgis Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:54 pm

I know all my leaves are down EARLY. Even the oak tree lost half its leaves. To me it feels a cooler Nov starting out buy yes tomorrow a high oh 64 and man is it raining right now. I didn’t see that coming
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Post by docstox12 Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:49 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/new-york-abandons-electric-snow-plows/ar-AA1jyazz?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=0162319d346948dcdb5cdde0ed2e7ade&ei=19#comments

Shocking news!!!
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Post by dkodgis Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:19 pm

I can’t see the article. It pops up for a second but then just comments but I got the drift. Don’t let batteries get cold. They don’t work well. For my tractor, same deal. I have sn indoor spark plug. I switched them in winter and it started right up. Of course cold affects engines and machines. The thing is sales people will say anything to sell. I guess no one asked the Mn and Dakota crowds what they thought
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Post by docstox12 Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:15 pm

dkodgis wrote:I can’t see the article. It pops up for a second but then just comments but I got the drift. Don’t let batteries get cold. They don’t work well. For my tractor, same deal. I have sn indoor spark plug. I switched them in winter and it started right up. Of course cold affects engines and machines. The thing is sales people will say anything to sell. I guess no one asked the Mn and Dakota crowds what they thought

Operating snow plows in cold temperatures where you need power for heat, running the plow , as well as operating the truck ,is going to drain batteries on an electric truck.Back to the drawing board EV peeps,LOL.
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Post by weatherwatchermom Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:54 pm

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dkodgis wrote:I can’t see the article. It pops up for a second but then just comments but I got the drift. Don’t let batteries get cold. They don’t work well. For my tractor, same deal. I have sn indoor spark plug. I switched them in winter and it started right up. Of course cold affects engines and machines. The thing is sales people will say anything to sell. I guess no one asked the Mn and Dakota crowds what they thought

Operating snow plows in cold temperatures where you need power for heat, running the plow , as well as operating the truck ,is going to drain batteries on an electric truck.Back to the drawing board EV peeps,LOL.
I read the article ...glad they just experimented with just a few trucks..there is a time and a place for electric vehicles..lol
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Post by docstox12 Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:45 pm

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dkodgis wrote:I can’t see the article. It pops up for a second but then just comments but I got the drift. Don’t let batteries get cold. They don’t work well. For my tractor, same deal. I have sn indoor spark plug. I switched them in winter and it started right up. Of course cold affects engines and machines. The thing is sales people will say anything to sell. I guess no one asked the Mn and Dakota crowds what they thought

Operating snow plows in cold temperatures where you need power for heat, running the plow , as well as operating the truck ,is going to drain batteries on an electric truck.Back to the drawing board EV peeps,LOL.
I read the article ...glad they just experimented with just a few trucks..there is a time and a place for electric vehicles..lol

There was a time in the early 1900's, but they didn't catch on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9qlNCEZWKs
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Post by dkodgis Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:36 am

It is a sad state of affairs but older people (like me) feel the cold more. Yesterday, when I went to vote at our local church, my neighbor pulled up next to me and we chatted but he said what I feel: "I'm always cold anymore. I feel the cold more." and this is so true. So I do not trust myself to gauge Nov so far but some days have felt cooler than I would expect. Yes, there were a few beautiful days but my mind is adding up 2+2 and getting 5 (it will be a real cold and snowy winter).

It will be interesting to see which camp (warmer than usual/colder than usual) will  be the right one.  Myself, I think it is a cooler Nov and this teases me into a colder Dec and so on but I know it has been warmer than ever every year here lately. All I know is even with the heat on last night, I felt like a block of ice in bed, like I had just been pulled off of the ice truck for the ice box.


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Post by sroc4 Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:00 am

dkodgis wrote:It is a sad state of affairs but older people (like me) feel the cold more. Yesterday, when I went to vote at our local church, my neighbor pulled up next to me and we chatted but he said what I feel: "I'm always cold anymore. I feel the cold more." and this is so true. So I do not trust myself to gauge Nov so far but some days have felt cooler than I would expect. Yes, there were a few beautiful days but my mind is adding up 2+2 and getting 5 (it will be a real cold and snowy winter).

It will be interesting to see which camp (warmer than usual/colder than usual) will  be the right one.  Myself, I think it is a cooler Nov and this teases me into a colder Dec and so on but I know it has been warmer than ever every year here lately. All I know is even with the heat on last nice, I felt like a block of ice in bed, like I had just been pulled off of the ice truck for the ice box.

At least for the last week Damian the weather has been cooler than avg in your neck of the woods, so I think your old bones are spot on lol.  

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Post by Dunnzoo Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:05 am

I remember when 50s felt nice, and I wouldn't grab a coat until it hit 40. Now I feel cold. I don't know if it's because it has been breezy and more cloudy lately so you don't feel the warmth of the sun, or it's me getting older too lol

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