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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:47 pm

I know there were several days here during 93-94 that it never made it above 5 here , Orange County, I wasn't sure if NYC had any. During the Jan 2004 stretch when NYC had lows of 1, 1 and 2 during a one week span there may have been a day there. The 2004 records I have at home and will check tonight.

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Post by Dtone Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:58 pm

I can't remember any time with a high in the single digits. I barely remember many highs below 20. Even if the day is that cold usually at some point it was milder, like today's midnight temp. Overall today is the coldest day I remember in NYC. In 94 I dont think it was so windy, and temps rebounded a little more from that below zero low.

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:01 pm

I see NYC briefly touched 10 degrees this afternoon. If it weren't for the midnight high that would be annoying. Heat island effect will be felt in city tonight as ends die down. I doubt t drips more than 4 or 5 degrees there tonight. Most suburbs should have good sub zero readings tomorrow morning. If we only had a snowpack. What might have been.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:06 pm

Dtone. With all due respect I don't think your remembering 94 very well. It never got above the teens for over a week. Plus the January 2004 was colder for a much longer period and with high winds on both days it hit 1. Remember in January 2004 it hit 1 twice and 2 on 3 separate days during that week. I'll post the highs and lows from that week tonight when I get home.
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Post by HectorO Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:54 pm

Dtone wrote:I can't remember any time with a high in the single digits. I barely remember many highs below 20. Even if the day is that cold usually at some point it was milder, like today's midnight temp.  Overall today is the coldest day I remember in NYC. In 94 I dont think it was so windy, and temps rebounded a little more from that below zero low.

The year of the "miracle landing" on the Hudson, we had a very cold January. I think one of the highs was 14 in the city if I'm not mistaking. The whole northern hemisphere was frozen that year. Even Orlando had light snow dusting on their cars. The Hudson looked like wet cement.

-forgive typos. On my phone.
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Post by crippo84 Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:36 pm

I'm curious as to where the Weather Channel records their temperatures. I always use weather.gov, which shows a high temperature today in Central Park of 10* (currently sitting at 9*). Weather.com shows a current temperature of 12* with an 'Earlier Today' temperature of 20* (which I'm sure was recorded early this morning). Still...I've seen larger differences in the past. Anybody know where their reporting station is?
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:36 pm

This is definitely the coldest weather I've seen in a while. I think my high temp today was 9 with below 0 wind chills. I can't even go out for a cigarette for 5 minutes with this cold, it's too uncomfortable. Look at that HP in Louisiana!

http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/1000hPa/orthographic=-78.27,38.37,2501
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Post by oldtimer Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:28 pm

The cold blast has peaked Said temps to drop only a few from where they are now tonight

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Post by SNOW MAN Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:40 pm

My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.
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Post by RJB8525 Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:15 pm

So in S.I ...its currently 9 with 14mph winds and -14 feel. I know its bad my dads 56 i'm 28 last time our pipes froze i was 10..lol
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:34 pm

crippo84 wrote:I'm curious as to where the Weather Channel records their temperatures.  I always use weather.gov, which shows a high temperature today in Central Park of 10* (currently sitting at 9*).  Weather.com shows a current temperature of 12* with an 'Earlier Today' temperature of 20* (which I'm sure was recorded early this morning).  Still...I've seen larger differences in the past.  Anybody know where their reporting station is?

It depends what zipcode you use in NY. Sometimes they give you Central Park readings and sometimes Laguardia. It use to be if you typed in 10001 they would give you Central Park readings and 10021 would give laguardia even though both zip codes are in Manhattan. If you ever look at their historical snowfall totals and lows for Washington DC they use Dulles airport in Virginia which is 35 miles outside Washington DC, west and much colder. It would be like using readings from Stewart airport in Newburgh for NYC readings. They are a mess, it's a shame.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:36 pm

BTW - just got home it's 2.5, I don't think I'll top Saturday mornings -7.2
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Post by Dtone Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:09 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Dtone. With all due respect I don't think your remembering 94 very well. It never got above the teens for over a week. Plus the January 2004 was colder for a much longer period and with high winds on both days it hit 1. Remember in January 2004 it hit 1 twice and 2 on 3 separate days during that week. I'll post the highs and lows from that week tonight when I get home.

Your probably right..i was a kid then and there was no internet to look up official numbers.
i bet my cold tolerance was alot better then too

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:21 pm

You hit on a great point Dtone, there was no internet then and even now I can't seem to find good data on highs and lows during that January 1994 stretch. You'd think the NWS, NOAA, somebody? would put it out there somewhere.
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Post by amugs Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:26 pm

SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Snow - reminisced of this with Doc in another thread. 1994 was the Mother of all winters in my book.

My temps at 7.4*  - 23 degrees colder than at this time last night !

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:01 pm

amugs wrote:
SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Snow - reminisced of this with Doc in another thread. 1994 was the Mother of all winters in my book.

My temps at 7.4*  - 23 degrees colder than at this time last night !

I have to agree. 95/96 was more snow, but 93/94 was still a lot of snow and cold that just never seemed to let up. We were pretty much snow covered from Thanksgiving to the end of March. Plus the -20 mornings. Now that's a winter.

2.3 degrees here, hasn't budged for over an hour.
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Post by amugs Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:06 pm

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amugs wrote:
SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Snow - reminisced of this with Doc in another thread. 1994 was the Mother of all winters in my book.

My temps at 7.4*  - 23 degrees colder than at this time last night !

I have to agree. 95/96 was more snow, but 93/94 was still a lot of snow and cold that just never seemed to let up. We were pretty much snow covered from Thanksgiving to the end of March. Plus the -20 mornings. Now that's a winter.

2.3 degrees here, hasn't budged for over an hour.

I concur 100% even though in 93-94 do you remember the 2-8-12 timeframe where we had two MECS giving us 10" and 14" I recall in a one two punch!! Now that was incredible! I think there was like 20 hours between storms - WEEENNNIE HEAVEN!!

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Post by aiannone Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:17 pm

Was hoping for another delay tomorrow morning, but it doesn't seem likely since nothing has been said yet Sad

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Post by docstox12 Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:23 pm

SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Yep, the main drag from my house to my business at the time, Franklin Turnpike was solid ice for a week.You had to try and get in a groove.I remember a lot of times my rear wheel drive 1988 T Bird Turbo Coupe moving at a 30 degree angle at 10 MPH up the road.I think Mugs would know the schools were closed pretty much that week.Never seen it like that before or after.

That Route 80 run must have been a real drag that week,Snow.


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Post by docstox12 Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:25 pm

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
amugs wrote:
SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Snow - reminisced of this with Doc in another thread. 1994 was the Mother of all winters in my book.

My temps at 7.4*  - 23 degrees colder than at this time last night !

I have to agree. 95/96 was more snow, but 93/94 was still a lot of snow and cold that just never seemed to let up. We were pretty much snow covered from Thanksgiving to the end of March. Plus the -20 mornings. Now that's a winter.

2.3 degrees here, hasn't budged for over an hour.

That's what i remember most about that winter, the snowpack from the end of November until the end of March.That IS a winter!

That winter most people were begging for spring to arrive,LOL!
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:15 pm

Doc and mugs. As a snow lover there are not many times that I wish for winter to end but by the end of the march 94 I remember I couldn't wait for spring.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:48 pm

2.7 temperature not dropping at all.
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Post by SNOW MAN Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:36 am

-1* with calm winds. I remember shoveling off my roof that year and seeing this group of kids cutting through the woods around my house. There were 2 bigger kids and 1 smaller one, on the 2 bigger guys the snow was up to their waists and on the smaller guy it was up to his chest and he kept yelling to the other two come on wait up you guys. It reminded me of that scene in the movie A Christmas Story where Randy falls and he can't get back up because he's so wrapped in his snow suit and he keeps yelling come on guys wait up. It was some sight. Definitely a Great Winter !
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Post by Radz Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:15 am

7* this morning. '94 - That was the yr i ordered studded snow tires on rims from Tirerack, (came mounted and balanced) and slapped them on my wife's '88 front wheel drive honda civic- used them often in the 90's!! Also shoveled the roof because of ice damns!
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:23 am

2.8 right now, it never went below 2.3, Considering it was -7 four mornings ago this was a lot of media hype for an event that wasn't that big a deal.

Yes it was cold yesterday afternoon and there's not that many days where it barely makes 10 for an afternoon high in NYC, but come on it didn't even get below 0 in most suburbs, when 4 days ago almost all suburban areas were sub zero.

I didn't see the media frenzy four days ago. They all jumped on the new catch phrase "polar vortex" as if it was the end of the world. As Green Day says, welcome to the age of hysteria. And I'll leave it at that.
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Post by docstox12 Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:28 am

Yep, the people from Northern Minnesota or Michigan where 25 below zero temps are routine in the winter must laugh at the media around here.Years ago, when I was in business, I'd talk to clients from Northern new England who would laugh and ridicule when they closed the schools down here with 12 inches of snow.Theirs would be open in 20 inch snowstorms,LOL!

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:33 am

docstox12 wrote:Yep, the people from Northern Minnesota or Michigan where 25 below zero temps are routine in the winter must laugh at the media around here.Years ago, when I was in business, I'd talk to clients from Northern new England who would laugh and ridicule when they closed the schools down here with 12 inches of snow.Theirs would be open in 20 inch snowstorms,LOL!


You know what the upstate NY people think of this, they just got 5 feet of snow. I remember driving through Syracuse several years ago the morning after they had 18 inches, you wouldn't even know it had snowed other than the 6 foot high piles along the highway.
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