Severe Arctic Blast / Flash Freeze 1/6-1/7

crippo84 wrote:I'm curious as to where the Weather Channel records their temperatures.  I always use weather.gov, which shows a high temperature today in Central Park of 10* (currently sitting at 9*).  Weather.com shows a current temperature of 12* with an 'Earlier Today' temperature of 20* (which I'm sure was recorded early this morning).  Still...I've seen larger differences in the past.  Anybody know where their reporting station is?

It depends what zipcode you use in NY. Sometimes they give you Central Park readings and sometimes Laguardia. It use to be if you typed in 10001 they would give you Central Park readings and 10021 would give laguardia even though both zip codes are in Manhattan. If you ever look at their historical snowfall totals and lows for Washington DC they use Dulles airport in Virginia which is 35 miles outside Washington DC, west and much colder. It would be like using readings from Stewart airport in Newburgh for NYC readings. They are a mess, it's a shame.

BTW - just got home it's 2.5, I don't think I'll top Saturday mornings -7.2

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Dtone. With all due respect I don't think your remembering 94 very well. It never got above the teens for over a week. Plus the January 2004 was colder for a much longer period and with high winds on both days it hit 1. Remember in January 2004 it hit 1 twice and 2 on 3 separate days during that week. I'll post the highs and lows from that week tonight when I get home.

Your probably right..i was a kid then and there was no internet to look up official numbers.
i bet my cold tolerance was alot better then too

You hit on a great point Dtone, there was no internet then and even now I can't seem to find good data on highs and lows during that January 1994 stretch. You'd think the NWS, NOAA, somebody? would put it out there somewhere.

SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Snow - reminisced of this with Doc in another thread. 1994 was the Mother of all winters in my book.

My temps at 7.4*  - 23 degrees colder than at this time last night !

amugs wrote:

SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Snow - reminisced of this with Doc in another thread. 1994 was the Mother of all winters in my book.

My temps at 7.4*  - 23 degrees colder than at this time last night !

I have to agree. 95/96 was more snow, but 93/94 was still a lot of snow and cold that just never seemed to let up. We were pretty much snow covered from Thanksgiving to the end of March. Plus the -20 mornings. Now that's a winter.

2.3 degrees here, hasn't budged for over an hour.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

amugs wrote:

SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Snow - reminisced of this with Doc in another thread. 1994 was the Mother of all winters in my book.

My temps at 7.4*  - 23 degrees colder than at this time last night !

I have to agree. 95/96 was more snow, but 93/94 was still a lot of snow and cold that just never seemed to let up. We were pretty much snow covered from Thanksgiving to the end of March. Plus the -20 mornings. Now that's a winter.

2.3 degrees here, hasn't budged for over an hour.

I concur 100% even though in 93-94 do you remember the 2-8-12 timeframe where we had two MECS giving us 10" and 14" I recall in a one two punch!! Now that was incredible! I think there was like 20 hours between storms - WEEENNNIE HEAVEN!!

Was hoping for another delay tomorrow morning, but it doesn't seem likely since nothing has been said yet

SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Yep, the main drag from my house to my business at the time, Franklin Turnpike was solid ice for a week.You had to try and get in a groove.I remember a lot of times my rear wheel drive 1988 T Bird Turbo Coupe moving at a 30 degree angle at 10 MPH up the road.I think Mugs would know the schools were closed pretty much that week.Never seen it like that before or after.

That Route 80 run must have been a real drag that week,Snow.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

amugs wrote:

SNOW MAN wrote:My high for the day was only 3*. Currently it's 0. Doc I remember that week in 94 when temps didn't get out of teens. NJ ran out of salt and Rt. 80 only had 1 lane open and that wasn't even down to the pavement. You had to ride in the two grooves in the slow lane. It would take me 2 to 3 hours to commute back and forth to PA. It usually would take 1 hour each way. That was a vey long week for anybody that commuted.

Snow - reminisced of this with Doc in another thread. 1994 was the Mother of all winters in my book.

My temps at 7.4*  - 23 degrees colder than at this time last night !

I have to agree. 95/96 was more snow, but 93/94 was still a lot of snow and cold that just never seemed to let up. We were pretty much snow covered from Thanksgiving to the end of March. Plus the -20 mornings. Now that's a winter.

2.3 degrees here, hasn't budged for over an hour.

That's what i remember most about that winter, the snowpack from the end of November until the end of March.That IS a winter!

That winter most people were begging for spring to arrive,LOL!

Doc and mugs. As a snow lover there are not many times that I wish for winter to end but by the end of the march 94 I remember I couldn't wait for spring.

2.7 temperature not dropping at all.

-1* with calm winds. I remember shoveling off my roof that year and seeing this group of kids cutting through the woods around my house. There were 2 bigger kids and 1 smaller one, on the 2 bigger guys the snow was up to their waists and on the smaller guy it was up to his chest and he kept yelling to the other two come on wait up you guys. It reminded me of that scene in the movie A Christmas Story where Randy falls and he can't get back up because he's so wrapped in his snow suit and he keeps yelling come on guys wait up. It was some sight. Definitely a Great Winter !

7* this morning. '94 - That was the yr i ordered studded snow tires on rims from Tirerack, (came mounted and balanced) and slapped them on my wife's '88 front wheel drive honda civic- used them often in the 90's!! Also shoveled the roof because of ice damns!

2.8 right now, it never went below 2.3, Considering it was -7 four mornings ago this was a lot of media hype for an event that wasn't that big a deal.

Yes it was cold yesterday afternoon and there's not that many days where it barely makes 10 for an afternoon high in NYC, but come on it didn't even get below 0 in most suburbs, when 4 days ago almost all suburban areas were sub zero.

I didn't see the media frenzy four days ago. They all jumped on the new catch phrase "polar vortex" as if it was the end of the world. As Green Day says, welcome to the age of hysteria. And I'll leave it at that.

Yep, the people from Northern Minnesota or Michigan where 25 below zero temps are routine in the winter must laugh at the media around here.Years ago, when I was in business, I'd talk to clients from Northern new England who would laugh and ridicule when they closed the schools down here with 12 inches of snow.Theirs would be open in 20 inch snowstorms,LOL!

docstox12 wrote:Yep, the people from Northern Minnesota or Michigan where 25 below zero temps are routine in the winter must laugh at the media around here.Years ago, when I was in business, I'd talk to clients from Northern new England who would laugh and ridicule when they closed the schools down here with 12 inches of snow.Theirs would be open in 20 inch snowstorms,LOL!

You know what the upstate NY people think of this, they just got 5 feet of snow. I remember driving through Syracuse several years ago the morning after they had 18 inches, you wouldn't even know it had snowed other than the 6 foot high piles along the highway.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

docstox12 wrote:Yep, the people from Northern Minnesota or Michigan where 25 below zero temps are routine in the winter must laugh at the media around here.Years ago, when I was in business, I'd talk to clients from Northern new England who would laugh and ridicule when they closed the schools down here with 12 inches of snow.Theirs would be open in 20 inch snowstorms,LOL!

You know what the upstate NY people think of this, they just got 5 feet of snow. I remember driving through Syracuse several years ago the morning after they had 18 inches, you wouldn't even know it had snowed other than the 6 foot high piles along the highway.

CP --- I went to college at Syracuse University. The city was so good at removing snow. They made it disappear so quickly. Of course as you said, there were always piles of snow along the sides of the road 6 feet high but they kept roads, highways, sidewalks, and the airport! clear almost always. We had some great winters up there. My freshman year 20023-2004 we had 181.3 inches of snow. It was the 2nd highest season snow total ever. I was in heaven! Even the locals who had lived in Syracuse for their whole lives were complaining. I think this whole group on this forum should move up to the snow belt for a winter! We would all be very happy! Even in a dud winter like 2011-2012 they had over 50 inches of snow.

jbnyy224 wrote:

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

docstox12 wrote:Yep, the people from Northern Minnesota or Michigan where 25 below zero temps are routine in the winter must laugh at the media around here.Years ago, when I was in business, I'd talk to clients from Northern new England who would laugh and ridicule when they closed the schools down here with 12 inches of snow.Theirs would be open in 20 inch snowstorms,LOL!

You know what the upstate NY people think of this, they just got 5 feet of snow. I remember driving through Syracuse several years ago the morning after they had 18 inches, you wouldn't even know it had snowed other than the 6 foot high piles along the highway.

CP --- I went to college at Syracuse University.  The city was so good at removing snow.  They made it disappear so quickly.  Of course as you said, there were always piles of snow along the sides of the road 6 feet high but they kept roads, highways, sidewalks, and the airport! clear almost always.  We had some great winters up there.  My freshman year 20023-2004 we had 181.3 inches of snow.  It was the 2nd highest season snow total ever.  I was in heaven!  Even the locals who had lived in Syracuse for their whole lives were complaining.  I think this whole group on this forum should move up to the snow belt for a winter!  We would all be very happy!  Even in a dud winter like 2011-2012 they had over 50 inches of snow.

I have property in Central NY, about 40 minutes from Syracuse, right by Colgate University in Hamilton NY. The winters can be brutal. I remember being up there during a few good storms. When that lake effect kicks in....man you never know what can happen!!! 5 miles away the sun can be shinning while you are getting pounded with relentless snowfall

Frank mentioned something a couple of days ago about someone he knew going up to the tug hill plateau in New York to experience a lake effect blizzard. If they went they picked a great event. Parts of the tug hill I heard have received 60 inches the past few days, maybe more. I would love to experience that once, more so even than storm chasing a tornado.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Frank mentioned something a couple of days ago about someone he knew going up to the tug hill plateau in New York to experience a lake effect blizzard.  If they went they picked a great event.  Parts of the tug hill I heard have received 60 inches the past few days, maybe more. I would love to experience that once, more so even than storm chasing a tornado.

Yes, I've already seen videos and pictures that they're posting on their Facebook pages. I'll see if I can get them onto here.

As much as I think these owners are idiots for allowing this, goes to show how cold it is in Chicago

CP, here's one of the pictures. 5 inch per hour band, visibility 0 

Frank:

5 inches per hour, un freakin believable. Any idea how much snow they've seen fall in the area they're in?

Post more pictures if you can Frank, great stuff

Got up to 21.3* from a night time low of 6.1* - add a nice snowstorm and this is winter!!

Todays high was 19* from a low of-1*. I couldn't agree with you more Mugs about a snowstorm, your right that is Winter. I hope your right about being possibly smacked in the long range. I'll be looking forward to it.

Frank_Wx wrote:CP, here's one of the pictures. 5 inch per hour band, visibility 0 

Here is another one CP from that same group who went LES chasing..LOL
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