March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
Jman I haven't looked at the ensembles but what I'm hearing is that at least 35 of the 51 members show a foot or more for most of the area including the coastjmanley32 wrote:skinsfan1177 wrote:I'm not sure I here many saying that coastal areas will see their share to. Maybe more souther nj has issues especially if most of it falls at night
Just going by a lot of the ensebles of euro showing little for the coast, but then some show big snow, one even shows close to 18-24.
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
algae888 wrote:Jman I haven't looked at the ensembles but what I'm hearing is that at least 35 of the 51 members show a foot or more for most of the area including the coastjmanley32 wrote:skinsfan1177 wrote:I'm not sure I here many saying that coastal areas will see their share to. Maybe more souther nj has issues especially if most of it falls at night
Just going by a lot of the ensebles of euro showing little for the coast, but then some show big snow, one even shows close to 18-24.
35, I will have to count later, I just looked rather quickly.
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
EURO ENSEMBLES ARE BEAUTIFUL. MANY INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS ARE SHOWING MAJOR HITS!!!
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
Lee Goldberg is saying 3-6 inches preliminary. He thinks that 6+ is very much on the table.
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
He usually goes by a similar thinking to Bernie; WABC's weather is essentially via Accuweather (maps, etc.)nutleyblizzard wrote:Lee Goldberg is saying 3-6 inches preliminary. He thinks that 6+ is very much on the table.
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
Yeah...not liking those ENS much for NYC proper.sroc4 wrote:
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
algae888 wrote:Jman I haven't looked at the ensembles but what I'm hearing is that at least 35 of the 51 members show a foot or more for most of the area including the coastjmanley32 wrote:skinsfan1177 wrote:I'm not sure I here many saying that coastal areas will see their share to. Maybe more souther nj has issues especially if most of it falls at night
Just going by a lot of the ensebles of euro showing little for the coast, but then some show big snow, one even shows close to 18-24.
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:algae888 wrote:Jman I haven't looked at the ensembles but what I'm hearing is that at least 35 of the 51 members show a foot or more for most of the area including the coastjmanley32 wrote:skinsfan1177 wrote:I'm not sure I here many saying that coastal areas will see their share to. Maybe more souther nj has issues especially if most of it falls at night
Just going by a lot of the ensebles of euro showing little for the coast, but then some show big snow, one even shows close to 18-24.
Wait for it!!!!
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
SO we have the euro showing and leading teh way with the UKIE, CMC, NAVGEM, NOGAPS, SREFS all showing similar solutions and we have the GFS/NAM bringing up the rear. Oh and ride the euro on Southern Vorts Miller A type storms from what I have learned and read over teh years.
Guidance continues to make improvements aloft and trend towards the ukie/ggem/euro with the strong coastal noreaster idea sunday afternoon and overnight. watch the poop hit the proverbial fan in the next 24 hours.
We have a nice 50/50 low underneath the EAST based NAO block, PNA Ridge/Spike in west, Northern Vort still lagging behind the Southern Vort by a few hours if I am seeing this correctly. IF we can get those two to catch up sooner than HOT DIGGIDY!! Also, I am seeing a little piece of energy in NWestern Mexico that if it weakens or dissipates than I feel will allow this souther vort to really get going. Anyway, we are in for a good ride here peeps. Winter Warlock saying SPRING?? HAHAHAHAHA NOT SO FAST!!
850's -10*C range Sunday evening into Monday
Oh and Viva La France
GGEM ENS
Okay off to a St Pat's Party with me Irish wife and half Irish kids - no funny stuffy on here - all positive juju - GOT IT!! HOMEMADE BAILEY'S FTFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guidance continues to make improvements aloft and trend towards the ukie/ggem/euro with the strong coastal noreaster idea sunday afternoon and overnight. watch the poop hit the proverbial fan in the next 24 hours.
We have a nice 50/50 low underneath the EAST based NAO block, PNA Ridge/Spike in west, Northern Vort still lagging behind the Southern Vort by a few hours if I am seeing this correctly. IF we can get those two to catch up sooner than HOT DIGGIDY!! Also, I am seeing a little piece of energy in NWestern Mexico that if it weakens or dissipates than I feel will allow this souther vort to really get going. Anyway, we are in for a good ride here peeps. Winter Warlock saying SPRING?? HAHAHAHAHA NOT SO FAST!!
850's -10*C range Sunday evening into Monday
Oh and Viva La France
GGEM ENS
Okay off to a St Pat's Party with me Irish wife and half Irish kids - no funny stuffy on here - all positive juju - GOT IT!! HOMEMADE BAILEY'S FTFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
Back for quickie as we wait for teh mrs:
#1 analog - 2006 Feb 12th that is
#1 analog - 2006 Feb 12th that is
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
I know that I've been largely absent from the discussions, but I have been lurking and keeping up with them; I just honestly have not had the time to really post anything of substance, as is the case now. However, my quick and dirty thoughts (taken from my FB convo with a fellow met:
Can't talk long but this just doesn't scream "big east coast storm" storm to me
Yes, the large drivers are there; NAO/PNA/EPO
but the pseudo-Rex Block morphing into a major east coast storm????
Idk, I've been wrong plenty of times before, but to me this looks like a pattern that supports a non-phased, which btw is the solution we are seeing (un-phased), OTS track, albeit a near miss. In a nutshell; I don't know if the pseudo block can elongate its wavelength fast enough in order to allow the confluence ahead of the trailing energies to escape for sufficient ridging ahead of the surface low to steer northward.
Just my thoughts. Have not had much time to really analyze, but clearly I'm in the vast minority of guidance. We shall see how this ultimately plays out, but I'm thinking a jog east wouldn't be out of the question. Have to go for now, will still be lurking and maybe post some tomorrow and Saturday. Cheers and happy model watching!!!
Can't talk long but this just doesn't scream "big east coast storm" storm to me
Yes, the large drivers are there; NAO/PNA/EPO
but the pseudo-Rex Block morphing into a major east coast storm????
Idk, I've been wrong plenty of times before, but to me this looks like a pattern that supports a non-phased, which btw is the solution we are seeing (un-phased), OTS track, albeit a near miss. In a nutshell; I don't know if the pseudo block can elongate its wavelength fast enough in order to allow the confluence ahead of the trailing energies to escape for sufficient ridging ahead of the surface low to steer northward.
Just my thoughts. Have not had much time to really analyze, but clearly I'm in the vast minority of guidance. We shall see how this ultimately plays out, but I'm thinking a jog east wouldn't be out of the question. Have to go for now, will still be lurking and maybe post some tomorrow and Saturday. Cheers and happy model watching!!!
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
Wow that would b awesome. The analog I mean not rb post. lol
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
Well rb ruined the party mugs. Lol but thanks for your insight. Your a met so I respect t your insight thpugh not to happy with ur idea of ots or near miss.
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
Interesting little tidbit (and some hope) here...
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
I had a long crazy day at work today I have not been checking the models but wow this is getting better and better should I get my snow shovel ready
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Re: March 20th-21st: Spring Godzilla Part 1
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