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January 7, 2017 Storm Observations

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Post by mikeypizano Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:21 am

So I am going to say very little to no chance of me seeing anything in Wyoming Valley?

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Post by docstox12 Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:28 am

Mikey P, hard to say.This is a nowcast situation, a jog 25 miles west will help us N and W folks.Radar looks to be filling on the West side.We will see.

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Post by Armando Salvadore Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:32 am

Latest surface analysis and upper air indicates our neutral tilt of the trough is still in a neutral tilt slightly going negative a bit. Water vapor indicates a baroclinic leaf off the entire east coast with the best lifting over VA, Delmarva, and now into SE NJ with banding being seen a bit offshore. Dew points between NNJ and SNJ have over a 10 point spread differential (green number), so we can see cold air advection is an issue and dry air with it. However, we're seeing better saturation at 700mb and reports from SNJ and CNJ are for snow currently. Here comes the test as to where subsidence happens and how long before saturation occurs. Also a test for the RGEM, NAM, and other short range mess models. I'd like to see better 700-850mb temp. advection. Happy tracking!

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Post by Vinnydula Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:33 am

Flakes here
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Post by pkmak Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:36 am

Just started snowing in Douglaston

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Post by aiannone Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:40 am

Flakes now starting to reach the ground here on Central LI

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Post by docstox12 Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:41 am

Armando Salvadore wrote:Latest surface analysis and upper air indicates our neutral tilt of the trough is still in a neutral tilt slightly going negative a bit. Water vapor indicates a baroclinic leaf off the entire east coast with the best lifting over VA, Delmarva, and now into SE NJ with banding being seen a bit offshore. Dew points between NNJ and SNJ have over a 10 point spread differential (green number), so we can see cold air advection is an issue and dry air with it. However, we're seeing better saturation at 700mb and reports from SNJ and CNJ are for snow currently. Here comes the test as to where subsidence happens and how long before saturation occurs. Also a test for the RGEM, NAM, and other short range mess models. I'd like to see better 700-850mb temp. advection. Happy tracking!

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Very interesting post and helps to understand how cold dry air prevents saturation and therefor lowers snow amounts.Yes, its nowcast time.Let's see how the models play out today.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:44 am

Moderate anti-virga here.

16 degrees
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Post by nutleyblizzard Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:44 am

Snow flurries just started up here. 25*. Now the fun begins!
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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:45 am

It started!!!!!!!

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Post by freezerburn Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:46 am

Flakes flying now in Hackensack and breezy

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Post by dsvinos Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:47 am

Started coming down and sticking in Western Monmouth County
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Post by docstox12 Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:49 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Moderate anti-virga here.

16 degrees

lol! lol!

Same here, moderate to heavy anti-virga, 17.9, 67%, 30.01 R
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Post by weatherwatchermom Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:51 am

started snowing ever so lightly about 30 minutes ago....currently 24* rf 16* winds ne @ 9mph humidity is 60%
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:52 am

Doc, CP, Janet..........I feel for you guys.  You know it's sincere.  Going forward the pattern turns unfavorable for us S and E folks and you will all cash in again BIG TIME.  

24 degrees here.  Stiff north wind about 15mph.  WSW in effect.  An average of about .5"qpf should yeild about 6-8 IMBY.

Light snow just started. Very light


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Post by weatherwatchermom Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:54 am

dsvinos wrote:Started coming down and sticking in Western Monmouth County

so I guess its coming here to hazlet soon...lol..just starting to stick to the cars... keep us posted..how it is in Marlboro...supposed to go to nieces homecoming dinner later in your neck of the woods...have a great day!
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Post by snow247 Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:54 am

For anyone wondering, 12z NAM back west again.
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Post by Dtone Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:56 am

Flurries here. 24*
Dew point up to 10*

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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:56 am

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Models don't matter at this point but here the NAM for the heck of it

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Post by docstox12 Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:57 am

syosnow94 wrote:Doc, CP, Janet..........I feel for you guys.  You know it's sincere.  Going forward the pattern turns unfavorable for us S and E folks and you will all cash in again BIG TIME.  

24 degrees here.  Stiff north wind about 15mph.  WSW in effect.  An average of about .5"qpf should yeild about 6-8 IMBY.

Light snow just started.  Very light

No problem Jimmy, you guys enjoy the day and hope you all bust high out there.Maybe we can squeeze out a few inches N and W today if this baby jogs west a bit.We will see.
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Post by Gator99 Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:01 am

Greenpoint, Brooklyn, 23.1 degrees, light snow just began.

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Post by jmanley32 Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:02 am

Frank_Wx wrote:January 7, 2017 Storm Observations  - Page 9 IMG_7498.GIF.d2771cdb1bdfe18a8b80466e56a0a4df

Models don't matter at this point but here the NAM for the heck of it
woah and I font think they use ratios do they? If not that's a huge uptic.
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Post by Armando Salvadore Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:03 am

AWESOME example of jet dynamics! Storm is currently is SE of South Carolina, however, the right rear entrance of the jet streak is causing for an enhancement to the precipitation shield because of the divergence sector. By the way, reporting snow flakes here in NE NJ with a DP of 7. Temp is at 23 degrees.

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Frank_Wx wrote:January 7, 2017 Storm Observations  - Page 9 5870f2bea80ae_RAD_MOS_STATE_NY_N0R_ANI(71).gif.b2b8f79b5d4bf6cf9a767ffe754bf75a
hopefully that dark green can get west.
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Post by skinsfan1177 Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:06 am

Dewpoints in the 20s here up from 12° great sign
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Post by jmanley32 Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:07 am

Frank that jet looks to be just where u wanted it to b to get things west no?
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