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Grinch storm of 2022

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Post by sroc4 Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:53 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:The NAM wants nothing to do with frontal snow

Truly a Grinch storm Twisted Evil

Yeah Im not sure Frank.  If I showed you this image from the 3k NAM what might you think????




BUT what If I showed you these images?  Exact same time stamp and model.   QPF, surface temps, 925mb, 850mb in that order. There is a lot of green in the image above in areas where temp profiles don't support green. If you just looked at the images below you would swear that QPF would be all snow across the board. There is QPF, albeit light, for like 3more hours after this time stamp. Just saying...



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Post by Dunnzoo Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:22 pm

.18" of rain so far, temp at 42.6 Wind has been picking up, gusts to 15 mph

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Post by TheAresian Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:14 pm

Just looking at the 0z NAM. I've seen some cold winter days in my life, but looking at the wind chills and seeing 3 hr block after 3 hr block go by with wind chills in the negative teens and twenties is the worst.

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Post by Dunnzoo Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:20 pm

Temp rising, up to 45* now, wind gusts to 18 mph, .26" of rain so far. Jets stink. Correction: Zach Wilson stinks.

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Post by Frank_Wx Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:42 pm

sroc4 wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:The NAM wants nothing to do with frontal snow

Truly a Grinch storm Twisted Evil

Yeah Im not sure Frank.  If I showed you this image from the 3k NAM what might you think????




BUT what If I showed you these images?  Exact same time stamp and model.   QPF, surface temps, 925mb, 850mb in that order.   There is a lot of green in the image above in areas where temp profiles don't support green.  If you just looked at the images below you would swear that QPF would be all snow across the board.  There is QPF, albeit light, for like 3more hours after this time stamp.    Just saying...



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I don’t believe there’s any precip falling after 18z tomorrow. If there’s precip around that time, or before then, I think interior NJ has a good shot at some snow bursts.

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Post by Frank_Wx Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:45 pm

Temps 10am Saturday

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Post by Dunnzoo Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:14 am

A crazy squall line just blew through, 56* and pouring rain, wind gusts to 27 mph. Total rainfall so far 1.32"

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Post by Radz Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:17 am

56* heavy rain and thunder
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Post by frank 638 Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:25 am

57 deg heavy rain 🌧 winds are howling so sad this ain’t snow

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Post by sroc4 Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:48 am

57*. Sustained winds mid 30’s Gusts over 50. Incredible winds out here

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Post by docstox12 Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:17 am

45 degrees, cloudy.
My pre white Christmas snow pack is history.
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Post by billg315 Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:52 am

52* Cloudy. 1.15” of rain here so far. Probably get close to 2” or more with more rain now approaching with the frontal passage. Some heavy rain showers to our west moving in and, hopefully, a little snow at the back end as temps plummet around midday. Just how strong is this storm?  Barometer at 29.24 and falling. Here is the barometric pressure chart showing the drop from the last couple days:
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Post by Radz Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:17 am

Have gotten little to no wind here except with the passage of the semi-squall line earlier
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Post by docstox12 Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:30 am

Temp up to 54 here and wind howling now.Mostly cloudy but see some breaks to the north.
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Post by Dunnzoo Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:37 am

Temp at 53* (high of 58* earlier) so far rain of 1.78" since yesterday. Highest wind gust was 27 mph at 3:30 am.

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Post by jmanley32 Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:58 am

sroc4 wrote:57*. Sustained winds mid 30’s Gusts over 50. Incredible winds out here
wanna switch? Dead calm here. Barely rained. Lol
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Post by heehaw453 Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:21 am

Cold air advection is rapidly pushing east.  I'm at 44 and temp is falling rapidly.  The purple line is freezing surface temps as of 8 AM near Harrisburg. You'll notice winds pick up transporting that air.

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Post by heehaw453 Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:23 am

Since this storm didn't have much if any connection to the southern stream the precip amounts were rather modest.  I recorded .85" so far in rain gauge.  Normally when you get prodigious amounts of precip there's sub tropical feed from southern stream.  The SOI index being very high now it's not really in play.

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Post by jmanley32 Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:36 am

Really bad in CT, 100,000 people without power and rapidly climbing, somehow my parents arent one of them. up to 103,000 as i typed this, wonder why so bad in CT and not in MA or NY, MA is only 10k.


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Post by billg315 Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:39 am

Temperatures now beginning their descent here even ahead of the next batch of precip. Have dropped several degrees to 46*. Gives me some hope that I will see some snow when these showers to the west move through.
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Post by jmanley32 Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:45 am

Oh nvm my parents are without power, ugg I hope restored in time for us to go tomorrow. 100k is probably going to take days eversource sucks.
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Post by jmanley32 Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:52 am

Does anyone know why CT was hit so particularly hard versus just west and just east? I am hearing CT could be days b4 restored, our xmas plans will be ruined with 3rd yr not seeing parents and no xmas dinner as we did not plan anything. I hopoe they get restored but they live in the places they restore last.
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Post by amugs Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:00 am

Was 57 now 50 and 2.25" of drought busting rains.

And buddy who works for Con Ed,an engineer in charge of their gas division said they are anticipating 100k in NJ wout power and 250 in CT /RI. Buckle up.

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Post by sroc4 Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:02 am

jmanley32 wrote:Does anyone know why CT was hit so particularly hard versus just west and just east? I am hearing CT could be days b4 restored, our xmas plans will be ruined with 3rd yr not seeing parents and no xmas dinner as we did not plan anything. I hopoe they get restored but they live in the places they restore last.

Significant low level jet associated with frontogenesis which included my area.  As the heavy bands pushed through from S to N it brought those winds down to the surface.  I easy had wind gusts into the 50's.


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Post by jmanley32 Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:02 am

amugs wrote:Was 57 now 50 and 2.25" of drought busting rains.

And buddy who works for Con Ed,an engineer in charge of their gas division said they are anticipating 100k in NJ wout power and 250 in CT /RI. Buckle up.
What about NY? CT is already 103k as i posted, another 140k yikes. Is it calm because we are between the two areas of the storm?
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Post by jmanley32 Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:07 am

sroc4 wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:Does anyone know why CT was hit so particularly hard versus just west and just east? I am hearing CT could be days b4 restored, our xmas plans will be ruined with 3rd yr not seeing parents and no xmas dinner as we did not plan anything. I hopoe they get restored but they live in the places they restore last.

Significant low level jet associated with frontogenesis which included my area.  As the heavy bands pushed through from S to N it brought those winds down to the surface.  I easy had wind gusts into the 50's.
But it missed westchester somehow?
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Post by jmanley32 Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:17 am

The next batch precip with embedded lines headed into NJ looks like the real deal. Looks like will impact all this time, hope you all stay safe and don't lose power, luckily Coned pretty much removed every tree in my area (but looks awful without them) but it is errily quiet right now.

Was that earlier line that sroc wrote of when the 60mph brief period the NWS said was possible was or is that still to come, im hoping it doesn't get worse in CT my daughter is really counting on seeing her g-parents tomorrow. Scott do you have power out there on LI?
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