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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:05 am

The rain from this storm has stretched all the way up to James Bay in Quebec and parts of Labrador. I haven't seen snow from this on any of the northern or western extremes of this precipitation field which in mid December is really odd, well use to be odd, this is our new climate and I for one can't stand it.

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Post by frank 638 Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:10 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:The  rain from this storm has stretched all the way up to James Bay in Quebec and parts of Labrador. I haven't seen snow from this on any of the northern or western extremes of this precipitation field which in mid December is really odd, well use to be odd, this is our new climate and I for one can't stand it.
I hate to say this but ur right it’s warm outside it feels like April then Dec

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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:24 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:The  rain from this storm has stretched all the way up to James Bay in Quebec and parts of Labrador. I haven't seen snow from this on any of the northern or western extremes of this precipitation field which in mid December is really odd, well use to be odd, this is our new climate and I for one can't stand it.

That northern stream energy is digging into the northern plains now. Unfort too little too late for most if not all of our area; maybe the extreme NW reaches of the people on this board will see a snow shower within the next 12-24hrs.

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Post by heehaw453 Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:37 am

50.2 very light rain. Had about a bit less than 3" from this which 3/4 of came in a 4 hour window so the streams/creeks swelled up a bit. Wind was not an issue as expected.

As for snow I believe that's Western PA and State College area. The 500mb trough positively tilted and becomes strung out as it hits the coast. No bueno...

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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:43 am

Winds were way worse and more sustained out by me this time around compared to last weeks system. Was woken up multiple times overnight because of the freight train roar of the winds. I have multiple fairly large branches down in my yard. My neighbor found this when he was bringing his kids out to the bus stop.

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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:47 am

heehaw453 wrote:50.2 very light rain. Had about a bit less than 3" from this which 3/4 of came in a 4 hour window so the streams/creeks swelled up a bit. Wind was not an issue as expected.

As for snow I believe that's Western PA and State College area. The 500mb trough positively tilted and becomes strung out as it hits the coast. No bueno...

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Yup. The snow on the radar above will likely fizzle out as it hits the coast as a result

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Post by heehaw453 Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:52 am

sroc4 wrote:Winds were way worse and more sustained out by me this time around compared to last weeks system.  Was woken up multiple times overnight because of the freight train roar of the winds. I have multiple fairly large branches down in my yard. My neighbor found this when he was bringing his kids out to the bus stop.

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Yikes. Do you think 60+ mph gusts ELI?  Looks like there were some impressive gusts around the coastal areas.

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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:55 am

heehaw453 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:Winds were way worse and more sustained out by me this time around compared to last weeks system.  Was woken up multiple times overnight because of the freight train roar of the winds. I have multiple fairly large branches down in my yard. My neighbor found this when he was bringing his kids out to the bus stop.

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Yikes. Do you think 60+ mph gusts ELI?  Looks like there were some impressive gusts around the coastal areas.

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It would not surprise me at all to see 60+ MPH gusts for my area. Winds were screaming.

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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:24 am

sroc4 wrote:
heehaw453 wrote:
sroc4 wrote:Winds were way worse and more sustained out by me this time around compared to last weeks system.  Was woken up multiple times overnight because of the freight train roar of the winds. I have multiple fairly large branches down in my yard. My neighbor found this when he was bringing his kids out to the bus stop.

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Yikes. Do you think 60+ mph gusts ELI?  Looks like there were some impressive gusts around the coastal areas.

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It would not surprise me at all to see 60+ MPH gusts for my area.  Winds were screaming.  

sorry Scott...our town was hard hit as well flooding, trees down, poles down, flooding and chaos some power outages and they did not delay school..a nightmare this morning for many..hope everyone is safe!!
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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:29 am

How do they not delay school? That is ridiculous.

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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:32 am

oh going to be a long day..not as crazy as out by Sroc..but we have had over 3.5 inches of rain so far our sustained winds were in the high 20 and our highest gust was 44 at about 4 this morning...still raining pretty hard we had a moment that the sun came out this morning..part of town lost power, poles are down, trees are down, roads flooded! we hit 61* now dropped 6 since this last round of rain started

Son says they are in the thick of it right now..fingers crossed his driver and him get to the station ok later today!! Stay safe out there!!


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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:34 am

Frank_Wx wrote:How do they not delay school? That is ridiculous.


lol no idea no longer have child in the town system.. but parents were pissed off on fb this morning its crazy we have all the main streets blocked off due to flooding or poles/trees down. Not a good call.. Son was worried that his final at school might be cancelled he said it horrible up there right now..but he is done and waiting till its time to go to the station..fingers crossed!! I am making him go 2 hours early..for a 20 min ride
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Post by docstox12 Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:46 am

52 degrees, light to moderate rain all morning, wind has died down considerably.
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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:58 am

Pockets of NNJ saw over 5 inches of rain. I’ve seen posts about flooding across various social media platforms. Winds along the immediate coast were also strong. You can extrapolate this into NYC. I’m sure they were higher out on Long Island, but can’t find a map like this one.

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Post by silentwreck Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:24 pm

Looking like another batch of heavy rain coming thru the area. I’m by Queens, NY. Late night/early morning we hit around 60 mph gusts. Let’s see what this band brings. DEC 18th-20th 2023--Wet, White, Wind?   - Page 9 Img_3210

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Post by Zhukov1945 Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:28 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:How do they not delay school? That is ridiculous.

Clinton Township cancelled school today presumably due to all the flooded out roads...
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Post by amugs Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:32 pm

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Here comes anotehr heavy batch of rain - wonderful.

Another slug of rain incoming could add ~.5 to totals
A top 3 worse drives ever to school in my 32 year career.

Left home at 7AM and for a 17 minutes drive it took me the better part of 45 minutes to get to work for a 7 mile trip.

Had 2 detours and rove through 1/2 dozen flooded streets - numerous down trees and large limbs etc.

No delayed opening. Students and staff took an hours to 90 minutes to get here today. The brooks and rived are still ragining an with this last slug maybe even worse travelling home.

Winds clcoked at 44 MPH at my house, roaring overninght.

Had 2.76" when I left at 7AM and it was absolutely pouring.

There was absolutely little hype to this storm as some might have alluded to it being overhyped. It was bad up here and my freinds at the shore in Manasquan, Belmar and Long Branch have all said.

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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:47 pm

You can see just how deep a tropical connection this system has. The tail extends way down into the Caribbean and beyond. Really Impressive.

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Post by brownie Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:49 pm

According to NOAA, we’ve had about 4 inches of rain here.  Lots of flooding.  Route 10 in Whippany closed in both directions a few miles east of here.  Still raining.

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Post by docstox12 Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:07 pm

Heavy rain the last 15 minutes.Back end not too far away.
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Post by Dunnzoo Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:36 pm

amugs wrote:DEC 18th-20th 2023--Wet, White, Wind?   - Page 9 Inxr1Kphla_h

Here comes anotehr heavy batch of rain - wonderful.

Another slug of rain incoming could add ~.5 to totals
A top 3 worse drives ever to school in my 32 year career.

Left home at 7AM and for a 17 minutes drive it took me the better part of 45 minutes to get to work for a 7 mile trip.

Had 2 detours and rove through 1/2 dozen flooded streets - numerous down trees and large limbs etc.

No delayed opening. Students and staff took an hours to 90 minutes to get here today. The brooks and rived are still ragining an  with this last slug maybe even worse travelling home.

Winds clcoked at 44 MPH at my house, roaring overninght.

Had 2.76" when I left at 7AM and it was absolutely pouring.

There was absolutely little hype to this storm as some might have alluded to it being overhyped. It was bad up here and my freinds at the shore in Manasquan, Belmar and Long Branch have all said.


Good luck later! My daughter had the same trouble getting to Waldwick this morning. Hillsdale and Westwood flooding all over the place, you're probably better off coming from Allendale Ave to Woodcliff Lake to Montvale. Seems to be better up there. We had 3.5" before this last round started.

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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:56 pm

Sun is out...but now winds picked back up.20 mph .crazy 24 hours down from 61* this morning to 49 currently
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Post by docstox12 Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:23 pm

Rain has ended, sun breaking through and winds have picked up a bit.
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Post by heehaw453 Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:17 pm

Storm eradicated snow pack in NNE and NY. Incredible.

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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:28 pm

Lots of rain in Rhode Island..son heard around 5 inches.. and the train finally left an hour and 20 min late..they were suspended earlier due to power problems...Just happy he is on the way!! hopefully no more delays!! Hope everyone got home safely!!
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Post by kalleg Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:35 pm

Results of the rain flowing down into Essex County, the Passaic River above major flood stage through Thursday afternoon.
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Post by jmanley32 Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:08 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:Pockets of NNJ saw over 5 inches of rain. I’ve seen posts about flooding across various social media platforms. Winds along the immediate coast were also strong. You can extrapolate this into NYC. I’m sure they were higher out on Long Island, but can’t find a map like this one.

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Not really 43mph was low. It was nuts here. New Rochelle/Larchmont had a gust to 64mph, I saw a report of 54 mph in Yonkers. Highest gust was somewhere in MA 90mph!
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