Re: MAJOR HURRICANE FLORENCE part 2: Will have historic impacts to the Carolina coastline and areas inland

by **jmanley32** Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 pm

sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:Eye spy due northward progression Not that it's coming up here, but it gives me a chance for a couple of my ideas to have merit. We shall see. At work, so I cannot discuss deeply to what im referring, but basically my predicted landfall point as well as ideas I presented a couple days ago. Be back later!

Damn Ray You beat me to it. I wanted post that and give you kudos. Frictional forces, Convergence over land, lowering pressures...I remember

What the heck Ray, reel her in screw the blocking mechanism lol, lets have a total reversed cone shift, wouldnt that be something, NHC says WNW though.Just out of curiosity, what would have to happen in order for her to suddenly decide to track up the coast, I imagine many many things that wont happen but just curious what they would be. If its way to hard to or impossible to even decipher then forget it.

by **GreyBeard** Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:15 pm

When weatherwatchermom posted this link yesterday I said to myself "that flag ain"t gonna last too long..."
Check out the sound of that wind jman

https://explore.org/livecams/frying-pan/frying-pan-cam

Wonder if anyone booked this week affraid

37 miles off the Coast of Cape Fear, North Carolina is a former Coast Guard tower that has been transformed into a bed and breakfast called the Frying Pan Tower. Working with the B&B owner and non profit, Teens for Oceans, the underwater webcams observe the marine ecosystem where Sharks, Barracuda and even an occasional Octopus slither past.Spectacular vistas abound in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

by **jmanley32** Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:24 pm

GreyBeard wrote:When weatherwatchermom posted this link yesterday I said to myself "that flag ain"t gonna last too long..."
Check out the sound of that wind jman

https://explore.org/livecams/frying-pan/frying-pan-cam

Wonder if anyone booked this week
37 miles off the Coast of Cape Fear, North Carolina is a former Coast Guard tower that has been transformed into a bed and breakfast called the Frying Pan Tower. Working with the B&B owner and non profit, Teens for Oceans, the underwater webcams observe the marine ecosystem where Sharks, Barracuda and even an occasional Octopus slither past.Spectacular vistas abound in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.

Wow.... Why is the ocean rather calm?

by **GreyBeard** Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:30 pm

Good question.

by **Dunnzoo** Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:37 pm

jmanley32 wrote:
GreyBeard wrote:When weatherwatchermom posted this link yesterday I said to myself "that flag ain"t gonna last too long..."
Check out the sound of that wind jman

https://explore.org/livecams/frying-pan/frying-pan-cam

Wonder if anyone booked this week
37 miles off the Coast of Cape Fear, North Carolina is a former Coast Guard tower that has been transformed into a bed and breakfast called the Frying Pan Tower. Working with the B&B owner and non profit, Teens for Oceans, the underwater webcams observe the marine ecosystem where Sharks, Barracuda and even an occasional Octopus slither past.Spectacular vistas abound in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Wow.... Why is the ocean rather calm?

Really? That's not calm at all, and it is 34 miles offshore

by **GreyBeard** Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:39 pm

Dunnzoo wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:
GreyBeard wrote:When weatherwatchermom posted this link yesterday I said to myself "that flag ain"t gonna last too long..."
Check out the sound of that wind jman

https://explore.org/livecams/frying-pan/frying-pan-cam

Wonder if anyone booked this week
37 miles off the Coast of Cape Fear, North Carolina is a former Coast Guard tower that has been transformed into a bed and breakfast called the Frying Pan Tower. Working with the B&B owner and non profit, Teens for Oceans, the underwater webcams observe the marine ecosystem where Sharks, Barracuda and even an occasional Octopus slither past.Spectacular vistas abound in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Wow.... Why is the ocean rather calm?

Really? That's not calm at all, and it is 34 miles offshore

Well not calm, but not 20 ft. seas either given the location. And it's 37 miles offshore Smile

by **SoulSingMG** Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:43 pm

I'm laughing so hard right now that we are BACK IN THE CONE (cc jman) lol!

by **jmanley32** Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:50 pm

SoulSingMG wrote:I'm laughing so hard right now that we are BACK IN THE CONE (cc jman)

soul read back a page about the euro ensembles they are mighty interesting for next week.

by **weatherwatchermom** Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:56 pm

jmanley32 wrote:
GreyBeard wrote:When weatherwatchermom posted this link yesterday I said to myself "that flag ain"t gonna last too long..."
Check out the sound of that wind jman

https://explore.org/livecams/frying-pan/frying-pan-cam

Wonder if anyone booked this week
37 miles off the Coast of Cape Fear, North Carolina is a former Coast Guard tower that has been transformed into a bed and breakfast called the Frying Pan Tower. Working with the B&B owner and non profit, Teens for Oceans, the underwater webcams observe the marine ecosystem where Sharks, Barracuda and even an occasional Octopus slither past.Spectacular vistas abound in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Wow.... Why is the ocean rather calm?

The platform is 55 feet in the air...that water is not calm just appears that way with angle of camera I think I read the swell are around 20 feet

by **SoulSingMG** Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:04 pm

jmanley32 wrote:
SoulSingMG wrote:I'm laughing so hard right now that we are BACK IN THE CONE (cc jman)
soul read back a page about the euro ensembles they are mighty interesting for next week.

Yeah I saw! She needs to landfall and stay on land before we'll know where she's headed later.

by **jmanley32** Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:20 pm

SoulSingMG wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:
SoulSingMG wrote:I'm laughing so hard right now that we are BACK IN THE CONE (cc jman)
soul read back a page about the euro ensembles they are mighty interesting for next week.

Yeah I saw! She needs to landfall and stay on land before we'll know where she's headed later.

Very true and im not saying the Euro is right, though it did well so far.

by **Dunnzoo** Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:30 pm

weatherwatchermom wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:
GreyBeard wrote:When weatherwatchermom posted this link yesterday I said to myself "that flag ain"t gonna last too long..."
Check out the sound of that wind jman

https://explore.org/livecams/frying-pan/frying-pan-cam

Wonder if anyone booked this week
37 miles off the Coast of Cape Fear, North Carolina is a former Coast Guard tower that has been transformed into a bed and breakfast called the Frying Pan Tower. Working with the B&B owner and non profit, Teens for Oceans, the underwater webcams observe the marine ecosystem where Sharks, Barracuda and even an occasional Octopus slither past.Spectacular vistas abound in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Wow.... Why is the ocean rather calm?

The platform is 55 feet in the air...that water is not calm just appears that way with angle of camera I think I read the swell are around 20 feet

Yes, Joanne, I found a buoy reading of 23' wave heights offshore... hope there are no boats out there!

by Guest Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:23 pm

GreyBeard wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:
GreyBeard wrote:When weatherwatchermom posted this link yesterday I said to myself "that flag ain"t gonna last too long..."
Check out the sound of that wind jman

https://explore.org/livecams/frying-pan/frying-pan-cam

Wonder if anyone booked this week
37 miles off the Coast of Cape Fear, North Carolina is a former Coast Guard tower that has been transformed into a bed and breakfast called the Frying Pan Tower. Working with the B&B owner and non profit, Teens for Oceans, the underwater webcams observe the marine ecosystem where Sharks, Barracuda and even an occasional Octopus slither past.Spectacular vistas abound in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Wow.... Why is the ocean rather calm?

Really? That's not calm at all, and it is 34 miles offshore

Well not calm, but not 20 ft. seas either given the location. And it's 37 miles offshore

I’ve fished in seas tougher than that.

by Guest Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:46 pm

Still no landfall and down below 100 mph

by **weatherwatchermom** Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:04 pm

syosnow94 wrote:
GreyBeard wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:
jmanley32 wrote:
GreyBeard wrote:When weatherwatchermom posted this link yesterday I said to myself "that flag ain"t gonna last too long..."
Check out the sound of that wind jman

https://explore.org/livecams/frying-pan/frying-pan-cam

Wonder if anyone booked this week
37 miles off the Coast of Cape Fear, North Carolina is a former Coast Guard tower that has been transformed into a bed and breakfast called the Frying Pan Tower. Working with the B&B owner and non profit, Teens for Oceans, the underwater webcams observe the marine ecosystem where Sharks, Barracuda and even an occasional Octopus slither past.Spectacular vistas abound in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
Wow.... Why is the ocean rather calm?

Really? That's not calm at all, and it is 34 miles offshore

Well not calm, but not 20 ft. seas either given the location. And it's 37 miles offshore

I’ve fished in seas tougher than that.

ha...you would i want pics affraid

...largest i have been on our boat is 10 foot swells...never again for me!

by bobjohnsonforthehall Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:16 pm

Fished for Blues off Montauk Point. Swells were about 15 feet. Spent half the time doing the Technicolor yawn.

by **skinsfan1177** Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:20 pm

by **skinsfan1177** Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:21 pm

syosnow94 wrote:Still no landfall and down below 100 mph

May not make landfall for 24 hours

by **weatherwatchermom** Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:20 am

WHAT THE h(excuse my language)..WHAT ABOUT MANDATORY EVACUATION DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!! NEW BERN IS UNDER WATER...100 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RESCUED AND AT LEAST 100 MORE CALLS PENDING..People on roof of homes people trapped in cars...New Bern floods on a regular basis....there are 70 plus mph winds they are saying and some parts have already gotten 20 plus inches of rain and worst yet to come...what is wrong with people....I do not have sympathy.... And if rescuers are hurt because of you you should be arrested and if you knew me personally you would be shocked i feel this way....ridiculous!!!! If you can not afford to leave for hotel. Find a god darn shelter....you were warned...ughhh rant over..

by **Radz** Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:41 am

weatherwatchermom wrote:WHAT THE F(excuse my language)..WHAT ABOUT MANDATORY EVACUATION DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!! NEW BERN IS UNDER WATER...100 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RESCUED AND AT LEAST 100 MORE CALLS PENDING..People on roof of homes people trapped in cars...New Bern floods on a regular basis....there are 70 plus mph winds they are saying and some parts have already gotten 20 plus inches of rain and worst yet to come...what is wrong with people....I do not have sympathy.... And if rescuers are hurt because of you you should be arrested and if you knew me personally you would be shocked i feel this way....ridiculous!!!! If you can not afford to leave for hotel. Find a god darn shelter....you were warned...ughhh rant over..

Reports of up to 250 rescued now and 150 more awaiting... totally agree!!

by **weatherwatchermom** Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:02 am

Sorry for my bad Lang i was so upset..don't usually curse..and now a family that is in attic because water up to chest in house

by **sroc4** Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:07 am

weatherwatchermom wrote:Sorry for my bad Lang i was so upset..don't usually curse..and now a family that is in attic because water up to chest in house

Darwin’s theory of evolution at its finest. Unfort

by **jmanley32** Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:20 am

Wow that's crazy all those people stayed what viidiots in the words of ren and stimpy. On another note euro still steadfast on a stronger low remnant over the area 997mb in NYC harbor. Nhc has shifted cone recurve south and nhc has added a 5-10% box for ts force winds to the area and all north east. Could get interesting in 3 or 4 days.

by **docstox12** Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:34 am

weatherwatchermom wrote:WHAT THE h(excuse my language)..WHAT ABOUT MANDATORY EVACUATION DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!! NEW BERN IS UNDER WATER...100 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RESCUED AND AT LEAST 100 MORE CALLS PENDING..People on roof of homes people trapped in cars...New Bern floods on a regular basis....there are 70 plus mph winds they are saying and some parts have already gotten 20 plus inches of rain and worst yet to come...what is wrong with people....I do not have sympathy.... And if rescuers are hurt because of you you should be arrested and if you knew me personally you would be shocked i feel this way....ridiculous!!!! If you can not afford to leave for hotel. Find a god darn shelter....you were warned...ughhh rant over..

Agree 100% Mom.What I have learned from this hurricane is that many more deaths are as a result of water rather than wind.That was a fact Lee Goldberg brought up.He and others I saw, were reporting that dry air would get involved and knock down the wind speeds as the storm reached the coast.Maybe that was detrimental in that people may have made the decision foolishly to stay.That's just a conjecture on my part.The forecasters repeated many times that this storm would dump catastrophic amounts of rain and a huge storm surge as a result of the geography of the NC coastline.Mandatory is no joke, people should all have gone.It's so true about the first responders lives being at risk due to the foolishness of those who decided to stay.

by Guest Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:41 am

sroc4 wrote:
weatherwatchermom wrote:Sorry for my bad Lang i was so upset..don't usually curse..and now a family that is in attic because water up to chest in house

Darwin’s theory of evolution at its finest. Unfort

Exactly the line I use when speaking to my students about stuff we talk about in the news. I SWEAR TO GOD IF I WAS IN CHARGE DOWN THERE I WOULD NOT SEND HELP

by **rb924119** Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:47 am

sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:Eye spy due northward progression Not that it's coming up here, but it gives me a chance for a couple of my ideas to have merit. We shall see. At work, so I cannot discuss deeply to what im referring, but basically my predicted landfall point as well as ideas I presented a couple days ago. Be back later!

Damn Ray You beat me to it. I wanted post that and give you kudos. Frictional forces, Convergence over land, lowering pressures...I remember

Well, thank you, Scott haha if somebody can post an animation of the microwave imagery, they can see that the ideas did prove to have merit. As Florence encountered the coastline, it actually did move northward along the coast before landfalling, and to my knowledge, NO model had shown that. This is not to brag, but instead to show how forecasters can still add a lot of value over raw model output, and how meteorology is much greater than modelology.

by **Frank_Wx** Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:01 am

Radz wrote:
weatherwatchermom wrote:WHAT THE F(excuse my language)..WHAT ABOUT MANDATORY EVACUATION DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!! NEW BERN IS UNDER WATER...100 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RESCUED AND AT LEAST 100 MORE CALLS PENDING..People on roof of homes people trapped in cars...New Bern floods on a regular basis....there are 70 plus mph winds they are saying and some parts have already gotten 20 plus inches of rain and worst yet to come...what is wrong with people....I do not have sympathy.... And if rescuers are hurt because of you you should be arrested and if you knew me personally you would be shocked i feel this way....ridiculous!!!! If you can not afford to leave for hotel. Find a god darn shelter....you were warned...ughhh rant over..
Reports of up to 250 rescued now and 150 more awaiting... totally agree!!

The Mets and media warned everyone. There is literally no excuse. Evacuations began on Monday. That's how confident they were this storm will come. You can't fix stupid. I hope they're rescued, but if conditions for rescuers become dangerous, then what are they to do?