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Post by Dunnzoo Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:48 pm

No flood watch issued for our area in NENJ? Upton late to the party or most likely waiting until tomorrow morning. Have my OEM hat on and town is looking for answers too soon, hoping to have a better answer in the A.M.

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Post by amugs Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:06 pm

Zoo I know.
2-4"?? Of rain
Flash Freeze Friday looking more likely
Winds 40-55 mph gusts from late Thurs to Fri night = power outages possible
Arctic squall line moves in around 10-11 AM
Early Dismissals possible for school Friday? Maybe

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Post by jmanley32 Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:20 pm

amugs wrote:Zoo I know.
2-4"?? Of rain
Flash Freeze Friday looking more likely
Winds 40-55 mph gusts from late Thurs to Fri night = power outages possible
Arctic squall line moves in around 10-11 AM
Early Dismissals possible for school Friday? Maybe
No flood watch here either and the SR models have the heaviest rain right over NYC area. But you know upton. Personally I think 40mph will be on the low end, the 850's are pushing 90+ mph for a brief period and 75-80mph for quite a duration, with all the precip a lot should mix down, I would not be surprised if HWW are expanded west but I think nyc of just west of would be the furthest extent. 55mph i think will be common and long duration, not look forward to any power loss as with no power comes no heat for us here.

They canceled my daughters after school for tomorrow and friday. She's out sick anyways so doesn't matter.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:36 pm

Can we change the sub title of this thread to "Another piece of sh!t December" Just a suggestion.

I swear to God I have to find another hobby, or spend my Decembers in the Tug Hill Plateau. What has happened to this month for the last several years? It has to be more than GW.
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Post by docstox12 Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:46 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Can we change the sub title of this thread to "Another piece of sh!t December" Just a suggestion.

I swear to God I have to find another hobby, or spend my Decembers in the Tug Hill Plateau. What has happened to this month for the last several years? It has to be more than GW.
lol! lol! lol!
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Post by weatherwatchermom Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:11 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Can we change the sub title of this thread to "Another piece of sh!t December" Just a suggestion.


I can understand your frustrations..here on the coastal plain...we understand it's a crapshoot for snow ..we move here for access to the bay and ocean...but where you live..should be no question...I hope that the situation turns around.  In the mean time....have a happy holiday week!!! the last several years? It has to be more than GW.
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Post by heehaw453 Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:21 am

Please post your analysis and observations for the Grinch storm here.

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Post by docstox12 Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:23 am

Cloudy, temp is 22 degrees, calm winds.Radar shows snow to south and west approaching.May get 1/2 inch at the beginning.
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Post by WDrag Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:00 pm

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Location:Wantage, NJ (8 mi south of High Point Monument - 3mi w KFWN). 740' MSL
Posted 1 minute ago

Southern Wantage NJ had a mix of freezing rain, sleet, wet snow 11A-1P with a slushy slippery film on most surfaces.  Newton NJ had icy spots in the County parking lot at 1PM tho the wet snow rain mix had become all rain.

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Post by WDrag Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:51 pm

Another ob from a CoCoRaHs observing family member... Lords Valley in Pike County PA (Poconos and near exit 34, I-84). 3/4" snow before the change to sleet.

Also I saw picture of snowfall at High Point NJ a while ago.

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Post by docstox12 Thu Dec 22, 2022 2:55 pm

Thank you WDrag, all great info for the board!
Here in Monroe NY ,North and East of you, did not see any frozen precip, started as rain and continues.35 degrees, calm winds.
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Post by jmanley32 Thu Dec 22, 2022 3:02 pm

Dunnzoo wrote:No flood watch issued for our area in NENJ? Upton late to the party or most likely waiting until tomorrow morning. Have my OEM hat on and town is looking for answers too soon, hoping to have a better answer in the A.M.
Still none, nor here. Weird.
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Post by heehaw453 Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:59 pm

For grins I pulled AO values on days where the AO was between -3.5 to -4.16 sigma in December and referenced that to December monthly snowfall (in inches) in CPK.  Some years repeat in the list as they have more than 1 day in that range, but there are 20 distinct years. The average AO value for December 2022 in the first 20 days is -3.04683306575.  There has never been a case with no measurable snowfall for December when there has been a day in that range.  There have been a few years with < 1" but never nothing.  


Year        MonthDayAO ValueDecember Snowfall
19501223-4.15333.8
20221211-4.153Unknown
20221218-4.1511Unknown
19661213-4.14759.1
20001223-4.133413.4
20001230-4.11513.4
20101220-4.110720.1
20091231-4.112.4
19951221-4.035911.5
19951218-4.022811.5
20101222-3.987620.1
20091230-3.969112.4
19611226-3.95867.7
19761226-3.90745.1
2012128-3.90170.4
20091215-3.890312.4
20101224-3.862120.1
19661212-3.85979.1
20091213-3.845912.4
20001222-3.843413.4
19501228-3.8423.8
19661214-3.84179.1
20091229-3.835612.4
20101225-3.827420.1
20091214-3.820612.4
19581222-3.81423.8
19501222-3.80613.8
19811230-3.80382.1
1985121-3.78330.9
19581221-3.78253.8
20091212-3.767312.4
19521227-3.76627.5
20091217-3.74412.4
20221217-3.7385Unknown
19521228-3.73857.5
19631218-3.737611.3
19581220-3.73343.8
20091227-3.723812.4
19691230-3.7146.8
2022129-3.6976Unknown
19581219-3.69763.8
20001221-3.697213.4
20091228-3.696212.4
19781229-3.69320.5
20101223-3.69220.1
20221219-3.6708Unknown
20221212-3.6517Unknown
19581218-3.63043.8
19761219-3.62555.1
20091211-3.618412.4
19761218-3.61715.1
20091216-3.610412.4
19581217-3.60843.8
19761231-3.60795.1
19611227-3.60657.7
20001231-3.606413.4
20101216-3.598320.1
19781226-3.58780.5
2012129-3.58540.4
19681225-3.57687
2005125-3.56919.7
19581223-3.54173.8
19621230-3.53954.5
2022128-3.5219Unknown
19951222-3.520111.5
19631217-3.514311.3
19691229-3.51186.8
19951217-3.500511.5

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Post by Frank_Wx Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:54 pm

Yea…this is definitely a missed opportunity. Keeps you humble!

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Post by dkodgis Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:01 am

Ny will be under a state of emergency
https://nypost.com/2022/12/23/hochul-declares-state-of-emergency-in-new-york-ahead-of-winter-storm-elliott/

It slushed last night then frroze leaving a glaze of ice. Getting into driveway was near impossible and putting out the trash, death-defying.

48 now. Wins, low temps a’coming
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Post by dkodgis Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:30 am

Will be 15 degrees by sunset
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Post by kalleg Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:51 am

Sleet and small hail in New Hope at 43*

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Post by billg315 Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:34 pm

8* and the wind is ripping. Wind Chill is -11* and lots of icy patches out there. Temperature is about 45 degrees colder (!!!) than when I woke up this morning!!
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:43 pm

5* degrees wind chill -17.

Let’s see, thunderstorm early this morning. A high of 53 later morning. Moderate snow for an hour this afternoon and temperature on its way to 0 by midnight. That’s a full day.
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Post by weatherwatchermom Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:50 pm

9*rf-10...flipping cold.
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Post by essexcountypete Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:43 pm

7*
wc -6
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Post by Math23x7 Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:34 am

The air temperature in Central Park is 8*. The last time it was that cold there: January 31st, 2019 (when it dropped to 2*). The last time it was that cold there in the month of December: 1989

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:46 am

1 degree above zero.
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Post by brownie Sat Dec 24, 2022 5:15 am

4°F, wind chill -14°F. Too cold for me!

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Post by dkodgis Sat Dec 24, 2022 6:33 am

Same. 1..

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