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Post by heehaw453 Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:28 am

Please post January discussions here.

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Post by heehaw453 Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:46 am

January starts with snowfall to date BOS 1", CPK, PHL, DCA no measurable snowfall after -4 sigma AO in mid December. Extremely unusual.

Current snow depth looks like November and not early January.

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Post by billg315 Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:35 pm

52* and Cloudy. That is all.
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Post by frank 638 Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:36 am

56° on the first week of January unbelievable

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Post by sroc4 Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:55 am

63* out by me.  Its a beautiful late spring d...wait I mean early fall.....wait mid winter day????

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Post by amugs Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:44 am

Going after records today - amazing how Nature works in finding a balance over time. Xmas Eve and Day we had record cold and temperature drops and today we go after record warmth and next week snow storm potentials. What I've been harping on - "dream" extreme weather!!

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Post by GreyBeard Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:00 pm

Hit 65° right before noon when the sun was out. Since then dropped a degree after the clouds rolled in. Another round of showers heading in later this afternoon from what is predicted.

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Post by billg315 Wed Jan 04, 2023 4:09 pm

61*. Walked to lunch today with no coat. On January 4. More importantly, ordered an iced coffee for the first time since October. The world is upside down.
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Post by weatherwatchermom Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:11 pm

Hit 66* today..did not feel it thought what a gloomy day...so sad its January
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Post by JT33 Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:01 pm

Tennis in shorts and a t-shirt!

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Post by Frank_Wx Thu Jan 05, 2023 8:37 pm

More rain and fog tomorrow.

Weekend looks nice. Cooler than it has been but still in the 40s

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Post by dkodgis Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:37 am

It is 38 outside at 8:30 this morning. It is January 6 so it is time to pack away all the decorations and the tree. The elves on the shelf (CP, DOC, Scott, Frank, Janet, Mom, and the rest, you all know who you are), are back in storage at least until the next snow storm. Has anyone's grass been turning into moss? CP was right. This is Seattle weather.
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Post by Dunnzoo Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:29 pm

ugh, still grey, if we aren't going to get any snow, at least let's get some sunshine out here. So depressing. And yes, I'm getting a lot of moss, in the lawn, cracks in the driveway, it's everywhere!

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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:39 pm

dkodgis wrote:It is 38 outside at 8:30 this morning. It is January 6 so it is time to pack away all the decorations and the tree. The elves on the shelf (CP, DOC, Scott, Frank, Janet, Mom, and the rest, you all know who you are), are back in storage at least until the next snow storm.  Has anyone's grass been turning into moss? CP was right. This is Seattle weather.

This is about the time of year my seasonal depression hits and the only thing to salvage me is a Godzilla

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Post by heehaw453 Sat Jan 07, 2023 3:37 pm

Interesting stats.  Some of the all time garbage winters on that list...

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Post by Frank_Wx Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:05 pm

Man with how models look we may break those records

I guess “measurable” could mean 1/2 inch to 1” which is possible Monday

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Post by heehaw453 Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:19 am

Indeed Frank.  1972/73 season was the deepest into the season that NYC didn't receive measurable snowfall.  Snowfall finally occurred on January 28 1973 when 1.8" of snow fell.  That season went on to produce 2.8" the lowest ever recorded in a season for CPK.  That year saw no measurable snowfall in DCA or PHL.  

Also as you can see the lowest totals that deep into the season belong to 1994/95 when just .2" was recorded in the Park and that year saw about 12" the rest of the season.

If CPK doesn't record anything tonight/tomorrow morning futility records will be challenged on many fronts. Can we do this?

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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:26 am

To clarify for records measurable snow means anything .1 inch or above. Anything less than .1 inch even if it doesn’t stick to anything is recorded as a trace which Central Park has had on a few occasions this season.

NYC will break all futility records this season. It’s already written in stone. Celebration at Docs place on OTI when each record falls.
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Post by heehaw453 Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:47 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:To clarify for records measurable snow means anything .1 inch or above. Anything less than .1 inch even if it doesn’t stick to anything is recorded as a trace which Central Park has had on a few occasions this season.

NYC will break all futility records this season. It’s already written in stone. Celebration at Docs place on OTI when each record falls.
Good point CP.  Snow has been observed falling this year for sure.

Obviously the futility is up and down the Eastern Seaboard. BOS has only recorded 1" so far.  Their lowest for the season as of a January 31 is 1.8". IMO this nonsense continues until I see colder air in much greater supply.  Long wave patterns are not going to cut it by themselves. It's hard to derive cold air when there ain't a lot of snowfall in Canada...

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Post by amugs Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:59 am

Whilst we bear the brunt of winters cruelty our Western, Upper Midwest, Interior, GL brethren are setting their own records using our snows!!!!!
Ebb n flow of nature. Cali and said region was in a massive drought not no more now!! 

God giveth and he taketh! All the time.

Like NY Yankees Aaron Judge displayed this season records were made to be broken.

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Post by heehaw453 Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:04 am

amugs wrote:Whilst we bear the brunt of winters cruelty our Western, Upper Midwest, Interior, GL brethren are setting their own records using our snows!!!!!
Ebb n flow of nature. Cali and said region was in a massive drought not no more now!! 

God giveth and he taketh! All the time.

Like NY Yankees Aaron Judge displayed this season records were made to be broken.
That's a great point Mugs.  CA really needs the snows in the Sierra's for their drought.  Very Nino like storms in a Nina year helping put a dent in that situation.

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Post by dkodgis Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:20 am

Don’t the records show snow by Jan 18? Also, in CA the drought is still there. Rain is one thing. Lots of snow missing on the Sierras is another
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Post by sroc4 Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:15 am

Good morning. Yesterday I was drinking from the glass on the right.  This morning; however, I am back to drinking from the one on the left and I have to say it is definitely colder, crisper, cleaner, and more desirable to the palate.  

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Now look I am not going to pretend that this winter doesn't suck.  It does....pretty plain, and pretty simple.  

Im also not going to pretend and say that the current prospects over the next 7days aren't dismal at best...for all of us, well at least 99% of us on this board.  The Aresian has the best shot late next week, if you're out there, but overall we aren't going to salvage anything over the next week, and likely not even the next 2weeks, even if there is a bit of snow flying around early Monday.  

Now like the Glasses of water above, winter 2022/2023 can be looked at in a similar way.  We've got a first half and a second half.  Do we want to dwell on the first half, or look forward to the second half?  Its Jan 8th.  Winter isn't even half over.   Winter has more than half to go.  And we are all, at least 99% of us, winter weather weenies!  And one of the main criteria for being a winter weather weenie is to have zero memory of the past when there is 6-12" on the ground, and its still puking from the sky at 1-2" an hour. Winter weather weenies tend to live in the moment.

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So for me there is still plenty of reason to remain optimistic.  Now sticking to the theme, optimism can be looked at in two ways as well.  

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There are some who enjoy the taste of the half empty glass, and who want to dwell in the past, and who want to look at optimism as nothing more than the madness of the current misery.  And that's fine.  That's your choice.  But its not who I am.  I am going to try my best to encourage as many as I can to drink from the glass half full, and not to dwell in the past, at least not for too long, but rather find some joy in the moment, and look to the possibilities of the future.  

Like I said above there is reason for optimism.  La Nina is most likely on its way out.  The stratosphere is hinting at changes that is consistent with a more favorable pattern for the east.  The MJO hints at a pulse and propagation in phases that are also consistent with more favorable pattern.  The ensembles are hinting at a more favorable pattern, likely in response to the aforementioned things, and historically the snowiest month of the winter season, February, is still in front of us.  

One way or another we are all going to make it through time.  So for me as I go through the next 2.5month of time I am going to try my best to remain chill.  afro
I currently have my Sunday sauce on the stove bubbling away.  And while I 100% will continue to have moments of frustration over the next 7-14days for sure, I am still excited for the future.  And when that future arrives I will try my best not to dwell too long on the past; esp if the future's past looks like the present's past.  

Ok Ok Ok enough of the cheesy clichés.  Enjoy your Sunday people.

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Post by dkodgis Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:21 pm

28 and ever so lightly flurrying
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Post by Grselig Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:42 pm

Dropping. 34 in Wayne NJ.

Agree SROC. Let's have some hope. Winter should be enjoyed. Not optimal, but there is time.
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